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Quoted by: >>1804108

/sci/ would zombies be possible ever?

or maybe even just using a broad term of infected.

what would be the closest most plausible zobmie style outbreak?

I'd imagine it would need to be an airborne variant, with a possibly chance of 5-10% of people being immune. what other realistic possibilities would there we, though?

>> No.1803070
Quoted by: >>1803075

You mean like 'zombies'?

If so, then no.

If you mean only superficially, then I'd go with a kind of intense parasite.

>> No.1803075
Quoted by: >>1803120

>>1803070

zombies, infected, etc etc

just a broad term of a human who has either been contaminated with a virus or has been reanimated from a virus and seeks only to feed or feel anger with no reason, etc etc

>> No.1803086
Quoted by: >>1803094

Kinda.

Maybe a kind of super rabies or mad cow disease in humans.

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1803089
Quoted by: >>1803094

No

>> No.1803094
Quoted by: >>1804511

>>1803089

we are all /sci/entists here, can't be invent a virus like so?

>>1803086

so what ifv we like, mix Rabies and Mad Cow and turn it into an airborne variant?

>> No.1803097
Quoted by: >>1803112

28 Days Later.

>> No.1803099

Film genres dont translate to scientific possibility

>> No.1803104

I don't think naturally.

But if some sad bastard genetically engineered zombie plague then yeah.

>> No.1803106

Airborne rabies would be horrific. Rabies is already basically a zombie virus. Your brain rots, you get violent and you spread the virus by biting things.

>> No.1803111

Look up cracked.com for the article about zombies.

Then realize a zombie apocalypse will never happen.

>> No.1803112
Quoted by: >>1803121

>>1803097

The one thing I didn't like about 28 days later was the fact that it was only when you came into contact. I'd imagine the army would end that in a day or less.

>> No.1803120

>>1803075

Again, if you're going with the hardcore fictional 'zombie' then no. (you're talking magic here, or an incredibly advanced and fucked up technology, which obviously isn't feasible at this point)

If you're going with the superficial traits that most zombies generally exhibit, then sure.

>> No.1803121

>>1803112
Unless they were completely oblivious until it was too late.

>> No.1803872

I think it will be a combination of std's mutating together and it will include causing gum disease like effects causing it to transfer from gums to bites

>> No.1803889

If it was a dormant virus that would sit still for about a year and then cause blinding rage by releasing bursts of adrenaline into the system..?

>> No.1803970
Quoted by: >>1804014

Any Biococks familiar with Toxoplasma Gondii?

http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/Science-Fiction-News.asp?NewsNum=547

http://www.corante.com/loom/archives/2006/01/17/the_return_of_the_puppet_masters.php

>> No.1803980

But there is an infectious virus out there already that people carry and pass on to others, turning them in to zombies. It's called religion.

trollface.jpg

>> No.1804014
Quoted by: >>1804054

>>1803970

Toxoplasma Gondii was engineered into a bioweapon known as Toxo, used only during the civil war.

It's not really appropriate to liken it to a "zombie virus" however as a sizable percented of those infected killed themselves before harming anyone else. It spread no further than two major cities, was quickly contained, but the aftermath was nonetheless stomach-turning.

>> No.1804030

"Undead" zombies are impossible. If the cells die then there is nothing to move you around. However a 28 Days Later style outbreak wouldn't be impossible. The disease could possibly increase aggression or paranoia while diminishing higher thinking. The catch would be getting the infected to not attack other infected. I have no idea how that would work.

>> No.1804052

advanced parasite that grows in your mouth
spreads spores by biting others
releases chemicals that rot the brain and increase aggression
one chemical is released that makes it so you stay away from attacking other infected, a kind of repellant
this is a survival mechanism for the parasite, so it's young aren't killed before they are born by their own hosts

>> No.1804054

>>1804014

Kill yourself

>> No.1804058
Quoted by: >>1804090

resident evil:
zombies
dead things

28 days later:
extremely angry people

yeah the latter is definitely possible i'm sure

>> No.1804067

Interesting.

From the scientific perspective, you'd have to overcome several obstacles which are given from the fact that we are "complex" living beings.

The most important obstacle is the energy. The issue here is that we mainly run on oxygen. You'd have to change this, just from the fact that with a ruptured lung etc you'd start malfunctioning. The next step are breakdown's of the cells due to lack of normally provided energy. In addition to this, once you lost your blood circulation, things I recall that zombies also don't have, you're finished as well, also since you cannot provide energy. Zombies that disregard these obstacles will stop moving after several minutes.

It's a matter of energy transport; no energy - no action

>> No.1804084

The closet thing we have to a zombie virus currently is rabies. It takes months for the symptoms to show up and actually affect you, and you can easily neutralize it before then or take the Milwaukee Protocol once it fully infects you. But it already has the same characteristics you would expect in a zombie: aggression, animalistic behavior, urge to bite others (biting spreads the disease), fear, troubles with physical movement/functions, painful gurgling or unintelligible speech or vocal sounds, urge to physically strike and attack other people, screaming. And so on.

So basically you can genetically engineer a zombie virus if you found a catalyst or way to make rabies more effective, work faster, increase aggression and physical strength, deteriorate the mind a little more so they victim is more susceptible to attacking other people and other exerts out of aggression, and make him more vicious.

But even if you create a disease that can just that, a zombie apocalypse would not happen, no matter what the disease is, because biting is a terrible method to attack and spread disease among humans, and can be easily thwarted even in large numbers.

Anyway, here's an Indian boy dying of rabies: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yVw0BBlxK4

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1804090

>>1804058
They are still zombies.

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>>OP

>> No.1804121
Quoted by: >>1804501

There's a species of parasite, that takes control over an ant's brain, makes it walk up a blade of grass or leaf, and hang there until it's eaten.
It then reproduces inside the larger animal, gets crapped out where it then gets eaten by ants and is infected again.

That would seem to zombie-like behavior, as in manipulation of a complex neural system.
Obviously the human version would need to be WAAAAY more advanced.

>> No.1804149

In Haiti they have zombies. My Haitian friends actually believe that the zombies are people who died and came back to life. Here's what really happens:

Someone puts the toxin Tetrodotoxin in someone else's food. Tetrodotoxin is the poison in blowfish, the same one that is in the Japanese dish Fugu. That is the fish that, when prepared incorrectly, kills the person who eats it. If you've ever had it from a good chef, you know that it makes your mouth numb. That's because the chef leaves just enough of the poison in the fish. In higher concentrations, Tetrodotoxin works by paralyzing a person's muscles, and if enough is ingested, the person will suffocate while being completely aware of the situation. In Haiti, they work out the dose so the person gets as close to death as possible without dying. Most of the time they fail and the person suffocates while completely conscious but unable to move to get help or gasp for air. Once in a while they get the dosage right and the person will appear dead. They have a funeral and burry him or her. Then a few days later, a guy with a certain name that escapes me digs up the victim and beats the shit out of him. This makes the "dead" person look like a zombie and also gets their adrenaline going which fights off the toxin just enough that this person can walk and make rudimentary noises. Someone usually takes them in to work as a slave, or they are killed in the street. In the former case, the "zombie" rarely lives more than a week as his or her organs are all working at about 10% capacity.

So yeah, zombies are real.

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1804211

Yes.

The American population after it gets home from work, and tunes in to the tube.

The epidemic is spreading, immunize yourself with intelligent thought.

>> No.1804501

>>1804121
So you watched BBC planet earth?

It's a fungus by the way.

>> No.1804511

>>1803094
>so what if we like mix rabies and mad cow and make it airborne
it doesn't work that way you dipshit

confirmed for 12

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