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1929943 No.1929943 [Reply] [Original] [archived.moe]

When can I start making money, selling vertical farming towers.

>> No.1929956
Quoted by: >>1929960

And how are you going to harvest all that crop genius?

>> No.1929960
Quoted by: >>1929972

>>1929956


workers

>> No.1929966
Quoted by: >>1929981

>implying you can fit more plants on that space if it's in essence a big stares

>> No.1929972

>>1929960
workers = money

This won't work but go ahead and try. You might get some hippy to invest.

>> No.1929976

I don't mean that exact model. There are far better ones, I couldn't find the pictures for yet.

>> No.1929978

How about the crops that are obscured from sunlight?

Does this mean the crops are going to only show up on the exterior of the building, thus making some sort of trapezoidal green building? Doesn't seem very efficient for the cost.

Can a really tall building handle all of that moisture bullshit without collapsing in a few years too?

>> No.1929980

Simple. When the cost of making a verticle farming tower somewhere is less than the cost of buying regular land somewhere else and shipping the produce from there to the tower area.

The US's eastern seaboard is going to be one contiguous city by then. Good luck!

>> No.1929981
Quoted by: >>1930014

>>1929966
I think you meant stairs.

Look up terracing.

>> No.1929994
Quoted by: >>1930026

Why not just just get some water from the sea to moisten up that dry shit land we got in the midwest?

We have a fucking desert not being put to use, at least grow some potatoes or force people to eat cactus or some shit.

>> No.1930000

Unless you intend to construct a sort of inverse pyramid of mirrors around it, I really do not see the purpose in building upwards for agricultural purposes.

>> No.1930003 [DELETED] 

Work for Google.

>> No.1930013
Quoted by: >>1930016

How about we stop planting altogether and just make shit up with CHEMICALS

If those scientist bastards can make artificial food, they sure as fuck can make up some artificial crops.

Inb4 ten nobel prizes

>> No.1930014

>>1929981
Indeed I did. I know what terracing is, but it's not a way to use land more efficiently, it's a way to be able to farm on a hillside. This doesn't apply here since you might as well put everything up on the roof instead of building giant stairs.

>> No.1930016
Quoted by: >>1930040

>>1930013
>implying artificial crops won't need to grow as well.

>> No.1930018 [DELETED] 
Quoted by: >>1930032

As for some of the objections posted already, I can't see the pic yet but current farming towers are cylindrical, stacks of a hundred or more circular farms. Agribots on each level pivot around the central shaft on tracks to plant, cultivate and harvest crops. The bottom few floors are an automated washing/processing/packaging plant, so that what's dispensed at the bottom level is clean, neatly wrapped produce.

Only about 30% is vended directly though. Most is removed for use in other products, and the production of bioplastics and other plant-based materials.

>> No.1930019
Quoted by: >>1930036

When you figure out how to supply sufficiant natural light to the middle of each and every floor.

>> No.1930026

>>1929994
Salt water on crops=bad.

>humanists butted

>> No.1930032

>>1930018
levels means less sunshine per plant

>> No.1930036 [DELETED] 

>>1930019

>>When you figure out how to supply sufficiant natural light to the middle of each and every floor.

It's not complicated. Most habs built later than the 60s have farming towers built right in to feed the residents. Runs off the hab's solar shell, turbines and geothermal like the rest of the integrated systems.

>> No.1930040
Quoted by: >>1930044 >>1930050

>>1930016

then we'll hit up the biologists and genetic engineers to make that shit grow fast with little sunlight then

USE A LITTLE SCIENCE FOR INNOVATION

>> No.1930044
Quoted by: >>1930050

>>1930040
>grow fast
>little sunlight
Pick one

>> No.1930045
Quoted by: >>1930050

mirrors, man; use mirrors, like the ancient Egyptians did to light their buildings.

>> No.1930050 [DELETED] 
Quoted by: >>1930086

>>1930044
>>1930040
>>1930045

They use grow lights. Nothing more exotic than that.

>> No.1930068
Quoted by: >>1930102

The economics of farming in urban towers seem prohibitive. The tower is expensive to build, the land is expensive. You'll need to pump tonnes of water up the tower everyday. You cannot locate it next to other high rise buildings, they'll obstruct your sunlight.

>> No.1930086

>>1930050
The electrical bill will be too high unless you use LEDs. You'll save on power, but the lamps are not cheap enough yet.

>> No.1930102 [DELETED] 
Quoted by: >>1930127

>>1930068

>>The economics of farming in urban towers seem prohibitive. The tower is expensive to build

If they were built by human laborers, sure. And if "Expensive" meant anything.

>>the land is expensive.

See above.

>>You'll need to pump tonnes of water up the tower everyday.

Sure. Just like a heliostat power station. Nothing difficult about pumping water.

>>You cannot locate it next to other high rise buildings, they'll obstruct your sunlight.

The only open-air cities are up north and they do situated the farming towers outside of city limits, but that's for aesthetics. Sunlight isn't really an issue as the crops are grown with artificial lights of the same humble sort used to grow indoors (usually for illicit purposes) for the past century.

>> No.1930127

>>1930102
Energy is expensive. Indoor weed cultivation only works because they have such a high value.

>> No.1930136
Quoted by: >>1930142

If anything at least it will get rid of the smog and help stop global warming

>> No.1930142 [DELETED] 

>>1930136

>>If anything at least it will get rid of the smog and help stop global warming

Haha! Hahahahaha! Why do you think we have to farm indoors in the first place?

>> No.1930170

lets do some math. lets make the assumption that a tower like that can produce 100 tons of product a year. Its likely much less but it will do for now. thats about 10 trucks worth of product, the cost of transport for lets say 200km is likely less than 200$ per truck. So it cost around 2000$ in transportation.

A building like that likely costs millions to build.
Its not close to being economically viable.

>> No.1930363

Even if you look at a possible future when energy is free, robots build everything, even raw materials are free, you still wouldn't build soemthing like that in a major city, because who would want to live near something like that when its not necessary?

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